nednerb said:
Ya'll are just mad its a straight person converting a gay person instead of vice versa. If you dont like it dont look at it. Literally a tag called "gay to straight" just blacklist it

I would argue that tag shouldn't even apply. It's just rape. At no point does he seem like he's enjoying what's happening, he's still not straight, he was just raped.

kwaverkat said:
I don't normally kink shame but can violent conversion therapy through rape really be considered a kink? This is absolutely disgusting and Murdoch as a character does not deserve this treatment especially after all the trauma he endures. And as a survivor of conversion therapy, albeit much less violent than literal rape, I find it repulsive that people would fetishize such an abusive process. Works like this don't deserve a platform, keep it in 4chan.

I reckon this is not the best place to talk of your past traumas.
With that said; I hope this practise becomes criminalized irl.

sparks127 said:
I would argue that tag shouldn't even apply. It's just rape. At no point does he seem like he's enjoying what's happening, he's still not straight, he was just raped.

I've removed it.

kwaverkat said:
I don't normally kink shame but...

No.

Rape is a kink.

"Converting" someone who may not have been entirely straight to begin with is a VERY common gay fantasy.

Mind-breaking is also a kink. I mean just look at literally the entirety of Changed if you need an example.

BDSM stands for Bondage, Domination, and SadoMasochism. It's usually at least a little softer than this, but that's what it is, and all three of those are present here.

You don't like these kinks, and that's perfectly valid. I don't like this piece either. In fact I will be adding "orientation_play forced" to my blacklist after this. But these are fictional characters, and this is an erotic work posted to a website specifically for erotic works. If you don't like this sort of thing, blacklist it and move on.

kwaverkat said:
I don't normally kink shame but can violent conversion therapy through rape really be considered a kink? This is absolutely disgusting and Murdoch as a character does not deserve this treatment especially after all the trauma he endures. And as a survivor of conversion therapy, albeit much less violent than literal rape, I find it repulsive that people would fetishize such an abusive process. Works like this don't deserve a platform, keep it in 4chan.

Yeah and? Yeah conversion therapy rape is bad. So is child abuse, raping people, eating people, murdering people, doing all of that at once (AKA Whitekitten). If you don't want to platform socially harmful behaviours you'd eliminate everything except Safe Sane and Consensual sexual practices. So either you are saying everything negative should be deplatformed, or else saying that what happens in this image is somehow worse than all of that other stuff, so it's ok to let people make content about literal cannibal fantasies but not to let them make content about conversion therapy abuse fantasies.

But the reason the site doesn't ban any of that is that having something portrayed in fiction isn't the same as advocating for it in real life. People who see or play a game about shooting people don't go out and shoot people in real life, seeing crime in fiction doesn't mean the author advocates crime, etc.

Positive comment here- the concept is hot and and art is great

antlerbanter said:
Yeah and? Yeah conversion therapy rape is bad. So is child abuse, raping people, eating people, murdering people, doing all of that at once (AKA Whitekitten). If you don't want to platform socially harmful behaviours you'd eliminate everything except Safe Sane and Consensual sexual practices. So either you are saying everything negative should be deplatformed, or else saying that what happens in this image is somehow worse than all of that other stuff, so it's ok to let people make content about literal cannibal fantasies but not to let them make content about conversion therapy abuse fantasies.

But the reason the site doesn't ban any of that is that having something portrayed in fiction isn't the same as advocating for it in real life. People who see or play a game about shooting people don't go out and shoot people in real life, seeing crime in fiction doesn't mean the author advocates crime, etc.

I like that you combined it into one concept, "conversion therapy rape". Good points.

zotec said:
Keeping in mind that not many make their sexuality clear, they may well be bisexual, so "Straight to Gay" would not count.

He literally says he's "firmly gay", though.

zotec said:
In this case, yes, but with many TV characters who don't mention anything about their sexuality, they may well be bisexual.

not to be rude but... did you read the comic before ing the comment section? haha. though I should mention lots of characters (Murdoch especially) even though they never outright state they're strictly gay and not bi, can be assumed as such since they show no interest in women, or even disgust at the idea of being with a woman. it doesn't have to be stated, sometimes it's just simple as a character being gay and that's that.

kwaverkat said:
I don't normally kink shame but can violent conversion therapy through rape really be considered a kink? This is absolutely disgusting and Murdoch as a character does not deserve this treatment especially after all the trauma he endures. And as a survivor of conversion therapy, albeit much less violent than literal rape, I find it repulsive that people would fetishize such an abusive process. Works like this don't deserve a platform, keep it in 4chan.

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funny, yet i found something perversity

(not mean I deny the author's craftsmanshipand efforts）

I'm going to go with a frim no on this one chief

memecanxd said:

antlerbanter said:
Yeah and? Yeah conversion therapy rape is bad. So is child abuse, raping people, eating people, murdering people, doing all of that at once (AKA Whitekitten). If you don't want to platform socially harmful behaviours you'd eliminate everything except Safe Sane and Consensual sexual practices. So either you are saying everything negative should be deplatformed, or else saying that what happens in this image is somehow worse than all of that other stuff, so it's ok to let people make content about literal cannibal fantasies but not to let them make content about conversion therapy abuse fantasies.

But the reason the site doesn't ban any of that is that having something portrayed in fiction isn't the same as advocating for it in real life. People who see or play a game about shooting people don't go out and shoot people in real life, seeing crime in fiction doesn't mean the author advocates crime, etc.

I like that you combined it into one concept, "conversion therapy rape". Good points.

From what I know, this is usually called "Corrective Rape", from a friend who has been through this. But "Conversion Therapy Rape" is probably a less triggering way to phrase it for some. Basically the rationalization is "Well if they experience sex the proper way, it'll correct them!" which is pretty messed up, though I can see why some people would also totally be into this from a kink/roleplay perspective.

thatfennec said:
I like that you combined it into one concept, "conversion therapy rape". Good points.

From what I know, this is usually called "Corrective Rape", from a friend who has been through this. But "Conversion Therapy Rape" is probably a less triggering way to phrase it for some. Basically the rationalization is "Well if they experience sex the proper way, it'll correct them!" which is pretty messed up, though I can see why some people would also totally be into this from a kink/roleplay perspective.

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It would be easier to express myself if I knew fluent English, but you're right. Combine this "Corrective Rape" with all the lies they're told in those torture camps, The trauma that is generated, would make them "Asexual" for fear of having a sexual approach again. It's sad, but I have seen many Christian families who say "doing it for love", they don't really care about their children, just the image of them as "Christian family"

Damn I love orientation play.

zotec said:

It would be easier to express myself if I knew fluent English, but you're right. Combine this "Corrective Rape" with all the lies they're told in those torture camps, The trauma that is generated, would make them "Asexual" for fear of having a sexual approach again. It's sad, but I have seen many Christian families who say "doing it for love", they don't really care about their children, just the image of them as "Christian family"

It's not just Christians. It happens in communities of basically every other religion, too. There are even a large number of Conversion clinics in China, due to cultural instead of religious attitudes. Basically anywhere you have a significant number of people who would prefer their children were not gay, you will have organisations crop up claiming to offer those parents a solution (if they pay, of course).

Is there anyway to report a whole comment section? Cuz y'all just need to use blacklist.

antlerbanter said:
It's not just Christians. It happens in communities of basically every other religion, too. There are even a large number of Conversion clinics in China, due to cultural instead of religious attitudes. Basically anywhere you have a significant number of people who would prefer their children were not gay, you will have organisations crop up claiming to offer those parents a solution (if they pay, of course).

I didn't know what was happening in China, and now it scares me more if one day I manage to visit it haha. But yes, Use the example of Christian families as it is the closest point with which I have lived. Not only for the fact of demeriting other cultures and religions to which I am not close.

It would be easier to express myself if I knew fluent English, but you're right. Combine this "Corrective Rape" with all the lies they're told in those torture camps, The trauma that is generated, would make them "Asexual" for fear of having a sexual approach again. It's sad, but I have seen many Christian families who say "doing it for love", they don't really care about their children, just the image of them as "Christian family"

Again, people keep mixing up Christians and catholics.
Christians believe that if you believe in God, you're going to go to heaven. Just don't hurt anybody unless it's absolutely necessary.
Catholics believe that if you don't do everything they say is right, you will burn for eternity. There is a BIG difference.

If y'all could stop discussing the morality of rape, that would be great.
I believe that everything that needed to be said had already been said.

I just look at the score/rating of this comic and feel like it's a battle between those that hates it and those that loves it. seems like those that like it is winning

hand_ball said:
Again, people keep mixing up Christians and catholics.
Christians believe that if you believe in God, you're going to go to heaven. Just don't hurt anybody unless it's absolutely necessary.
Catholics believe that if you don't do everything they say is right, you will burn for eternity. There is a BIG difference.

Hi there, former Catholic now Atheist living in the Bible Belt here to tell you that are wrong. Sure, we had our rules and regs, and a lot of arguing over whether it's by works, faith, or both that you were saved. Catholics aren't saints but don't you dare claim that they are the only bad apples, the whole bunch is spoiled. Non-Catholic Christians down here do a damn fine job of fire and brimstone preaching. Hell, many of the Protestant denominations of the southern US think that Catholics aren't actually Christians, but idolatrous heathens sent by the Devil to confuse people into not worshipping God. Don't believe me about how hateful non-Catholics can be? Pastor Steven Anderson of the NIFB, Pastor Greg Locke, the Westboro BAPTIST Church. All non-Catholics. Give their material a listen some time, then come back and tell me how loving they are, how "Just don't hurt anybody unless it's absolutely necessary" they are.

As for the art itself, the style is good, the subject matter ain't. Think I found a new term for the blacklist.

Orientation play is fun.

(Note that there is a difference between fantasy and reality. Consent is paramount.)

By the way there should be more strong woman raping lil guy

"The comments will be very civilized" -Me, clueless

Despite all the negative criticism of this I must it that I liked it a lot, it was very well done

Can we just nuke this comment section? lmao it ain't exactly about the art at this point

This is really hot!

this is hot

Still holding to tbat ciggie

Damn! Lucky boy

samantha ayers..

'Having sex with woman don't making you straight, you can't change orientation

Nice stuff, like the style and art work old vintage colours making it look like one of those old bars you drink whisky, the topic is something different and actually surprised at the words used which I shouldn't be, I like it and would like to see more stuff like this, anything to spice up fetishes and content.

To some of the comments I've seen it seems some people have a worrying case of thinking a fictional character is a real living being, it's a drawing, there is nothing wrong with the art, the subject is fine as it's fictional, we have a shit tone of rape fetish drawings just look at the tag and art of character being abused, we even have mutilation and gore or emotional abuse and manipulation. It's just a fetish and it's just a drawing if it's to much to stomach thats ok, theres things Myself and many other people don't like, fucked up or not, the only thing that is important is that this is fiction and not real, keep it fiction, only way it's ok to do it in RL is of 2 or more consenting adults wish to role play it.

Bro yall talking shit but theres a literal tag named "rape"

See this right here is why I'm not allowed in Applebee's anymore...

This comment section feels like proof of a double standard, for some reason.

sparks127 said:
I would argue that the tag shouldn't even apply. It's just rape. At no point does he seem like he's enjoying what's happening, he's still not straight, he was just raped.

I know I'm late to this one but the gay to straight tag only defines that a typically gay/gay codded character has sex with someone of the opposite sex and thus has nothing to do with enjoyment or a change in the gay character's sexuality as it's written on the tag's wiki. However, the common fetish of the tag usually comes with an expectation of a change in sexuality despite the actual definition applying to this picture.

niko_is_rico said:
Damn! Lucky boy

Yeah //~//w//~//

kwaverkat said:
I don't normally kink shame but can violent conversion therapy through rape really be considered a kink?

yes, next question

i used to struggle with my sexuality and i eventually just said fuck it and chalked myself up to being bi. now that i am chronically online i can say that while watching porn all genders are welcome. if teenage me saw this post it would make me blow instantly and then wonder wonder what is wrong with me but now it is such a hard on for me, despite not being gay. 12/10 last is funny and the backside view of the cum covered ass is top tier.

vaporwaveamwolf said:
Is there anyway to report a whole comment section? Cuz y'all just need to use blacklist.

Strange how there is no option to hide or even turn off the comment section for yourself so that you as a could just enjoy the art or/and check the tags if needed for whatever reason 🤔