fio (intrusive bottom thoughts) created by marcus gray
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what ive been feeling for the past few days
send help hhhhhhhhhh

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    orifan2 said:
    A bottom can still be dominant.

    Ok, usually they are submissive. I wasn’t trying to say Sinwit’s wrong, just that there are exceptions. Sorry if I killed that joke

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  • sinwit said:
    you could say the intrusive thoughts are dominating you

    Gotta love the implication you can be such a bottom that your own thoughts have their way with you~

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  • orifan2 said:
    Ok, usually they are submissive. I wasn’t trying to say Sinwit’s wrong, just that there are exceptions. Sorry if I killed that joke

    look at your pfp and consider good sir

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  • gearboxxx said:
    look at your pfp and consider good sir

    … but this isn’t porn
    (Not trying to bother anyone, it’s just that as a switch I have intrusive bottom thoughts where whoever’s on top is also on a leash or in cuffs)

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  • orifan2 said:
    Uhhh, isn’t that exactly what a dominant bottom is??

    no... not at all. power bottoms know what to do/say to get someone to top them, while dom bottoms are just doms but they ride you. D/s dichotomy is much more involved than mere power bottoming.

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  • ysegrunmasterofballs said:
    no... not at all. power bottoms know what to do/say to get someone to top them, while dom bottoms are just doms but they ride you. D/s dichotomy is much more involved than mere power bottoming.

    Does this make Brats...
    I learned much more from this than I was expecting on a porn site lol

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  • biotric said:
    Does this make Brats...

    absolutely not.

    do not confuse brats, doms, and power bottoms. brats are NOT doms, brats are NOT power bottoms. they can be, but they are in no way equivalent.

    brats act bratty because they want to be corrected, trained, and controlled, not because they want control. they want to challenge their doms into getting them to act. in particular, some doms don't like to do things without an, ahem, "valid reason" for it, so it's up to the brats to bring out the dommyness of their partners. that's how I am actually, I don't like punishing my innocent girl, so she acts up sometimes and it's all in good fun.

    power bottoms' objective, as mentioned, is to take out their lusts using the top. the bottoms might be the ones being penetrated, but they either have the power in the situation (being a bottom doesn't necessarily make you a sub), or are able to work their tops up to such a fever pitch that they might as well. power bottoms can dom, sub, switch, be bratty, be docile, whatever—these are independent concepts.

    doms tell you what to do. subs get told what to do. switches can be either or both. a vast simplification but I don't think it is an uncommon enough concept to need to go over here.

    to combine all of this into one: the bratty power bottom sub. sounds conflicting, but the result is obvious once you understand the above: these types will verbally berate and maybe physically abuse you until you [violently] take them, and even during the act, will push you over and try to take control of the situation. but at the end of the day, they want you to beat them at their own game and win (brat), they want their meager grasps at control taken away from them (sub), and they desperately want to spend their lusts using your body (power bottom). trying and failing to have agency, fighting against the unwinnable, being controlled and owned by another, driving you deeper every moment they can; that's what gets them going. if you were to let them fully take control they probably wouldn't be very happy.

    compare and contrast the above to CNC. yes, the brat wants you to win, and wants to have their agency taken away, but under no circumstances is there any sort of nonconsent in our example: it's all about attempting to deny the dom what the dom wants in order to work them up, and is not about attempting to prevent something the sub doesn't want (in play of course).

    look, I could go on all day about this, and my descriptions aren't even universally agreed upon. the best way to learn about this stuff is to find local resources and swap information. there are plenty of BDSM groups in cities the world over, let alone online. once you are in the space it will all make much more sense. unless you aren't into it, in which case, uhh idk

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  • Love how a fucking essay was written about the difference between doms brats and power bottoms

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  • ysegrunmasterofballs said:
    absolutely not.

    do not confuse brats, doms, and power bottoms. brats are NOT doms, brats are NOT power bottoms. they can be, but they are in no way equivalent.

    brats act bratty because they want to be corrected, trained, and controlled, not because they want control. they want to challenge their doms into getting them to act. in particular, some doms don't like to do things without an, ahem, "valid reason" for it, so it's up to the brats to bring out the dommyness of their partners. that's how I am actually, I don't like punishing my innocent girl, so she acts up sometimes and it's all in good fun.

    power bottoms' objective, as mentioned, is to take out their lusts using the top. the bottoms might be the ones being penetrated, but they either have the power in the situation (being a bottom doesn't necessarily make you a sub), or are able to work their tops up to such a fever pitch that they might as well. power bottoms can dom, sub, switch, be bratty, be docile, whatever—these are independent concepts.

    doms tell you what to do. subs get told what to do. switches can be either or both. a vast simplification but I don't think it is an uncommon enough concept to need to go over here.

    to combine all of this into one: the bratty power bottom sub. sounds conflicting, but the result is obvious once you understand the above: these types will verbally berate and maybe physically abuse you until you [violently] take them, and even during the act, will push you over and try to take control of the situation. but at the end of the day, they want you to beat them at their own game and win (brat), they want their meager grasps at control taken away from them (sub), and they desperately want to spend their lusts using your body (power bottom). trying and failing to have agency, fighting against the unwinnable, being controlled and owned by another, driving you deeper every moment they can; that's what gets them going. if you were to let them fully take control they probably wouldn't be very happy.

    compare and contrast the above to CNC. yes, the brat wants you to win, and wants to have their agency taken away, but under no circumstances is there any sort of nonconsent in our example: it's all about attempting to deny the dom what the dom wants in order to work them up, and is not about attempting to prevent something the sub doesn't want (in play of course).

    look, I could go on all day about this, and my descriptions aren't even universally agreed upon. the best way to learn about this stuff is to find local resources and swap information. there are plenty of BDSM groups in cities the world over, let alone online. once you are in the space it will all make much more sense. unless you aren't into it, in which case, uhh idk

    But.. I'm a brat and I don't want to be "tamed"... I kinda imagined me brat and run and hide, staring "hide and seek". Then they eventually find me, me playfully run, then chase then catch and pin me like a predator (uwu). We fuck. Then cuddle.

    Also while I doooo like to poke and test doms, your the dom, if you snap and say "sit" I'm supposed to obey. Why can't I poke and test and correct you? It not fair! I like testing doms to make sure there "Strong", if they need a physical or metaphorical collar and/or leash around my neck. Then they seem like there trying to convince themselves there in control.

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  • sabergone said:
    But.. I'm a brat and I don't want to be "tamed"... I kinda imagined me brat and run and hide, staring "hide and seek". Then they eventually find me, me playfully run, then chase then catch and pin me like a predator (uwu). We fuck. Then cuddle.

    that's leaning into pred/prey, tbh. but that aside, being a brat is, on a base level, about being defiant, and seeking someone to check you. "you can't catch me nyeh" is just another branch of that broad concept. like I said, the are fluid, and I was using my own more narrow interpretation as example. why you brat is your own, but the end goal is the same: challenge your partner so that they act.

    was your next question about how I categorized D/s? because

    Also while I doooo like to poke and test doms, your the dom, if you snap and say "sit" I'm supposed to obey.

    that's being a sub

    Why can't I poke and test and correct you? It not fair!

    and that's being a brat. so you basically answered your own question.

    doms tell you what to do, yes, but that doesn't mean you have to obey. and while subs are supposed to obey, they might not always. how a couple deals with this depends on them. in your case, that's where the brat starts—"it's not fair!" is like the #1 brat phrase, after all. what I'm trying to say is, it's still D/s, and it isn't made invalid because you want to put your own spin on it.

    I like testing doms to make sure there "Strong", if they need a physical or metaphorical collar and/or leash around my neck. Then they seem like there trying to convince themselves there in control.

    hard agree and perfectly valid. a dom should be imposing not just because they have the tools. it makes me cringe watching people try to act strong and they come off weak. it's a personality trait first and foremost, and if you don't have it, then you better be a good actor.

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